I love this so much
its just typing. i could do that.
yeah, but you didn’t.
“ As for Christopher Eccleston not being in the special, Moffat says, “I sort of knew that he wouldn’t. I know Chris a bit. I did a couple of meetings, and there was a moment, I suppose, a giddy moment where [I thought] ‘Would he actually do it?’ This wasn’t the kind of decision he took in a funk or that he was cross. He was very measured, very kind, very gentlemanly about it. He’s a good bloke. If you look at Chris’s career, this is not what he does. The Ninth Doctor turns up for the battle and not the party. ”
The most audacious aspect of the anniversary special is the 11th Doctor’s decision to rewrite the last day of the Time War and save Gallifrey. In so doing, “The Day Of The Doctor” redefines the fundamental question that has shaped the new series, and that’s whether the Doctor was right to commit double genocide in order to end the Time War. Until now, it’s not a question the audience has had sufficient knowledge to answer; the issue turns on whether Gallifrey, the Doctor’s home, was beyond saving. The 10th Doctor’s regeneration story, “The End Of Time,” is the only other story to properly deal with that issue, and it presented the exact opposite conclusion, as the Time Lords there had become so corrupt, so evil that they were willing to destroy the entire universe to enable their own survival. Reconciling “The Day Of The Doctor” with “The End Of Time” is difficult in strictly narrative terms, not least of which because I’m pretty sure they are both set on that very same last day of the war. If nothing else, one has to assume that Rassilon’s High Council of Time Lords and the General’s Gallifrey High Command maintain extremely separate jurisdictions.
So then, does the anniversary special invalidate the major themes that “The End Of Time” kicked around? Honestly, I’m not sure, though I think they can coexist when understood in terms of the Doctor’s evolving perspective. Nothing (except possibly the Daleks) is entirely good or entirely evil; here, the 11th Doctor chooses to remember the good of Gallifrey and so save it from destruction, but the 10th Doctor was forced to focus on the evil in “The End Of Time.” After all, the most important moment in David Tennant’s final episode is when the Doctor, who repeatedly refused to kill the Master, picked up a gun to take on his own people, even if he struggled to follow through on that hard choice. Although the 10th Doctor no longer had the War Doctor’s capacity to commit genocide, he still seemed to believe it was the correct course. He was still so scarred by the Time War that he could not dare hope for anything from his people, and Rassilon did not disabuse him of that notion. But the 11th Doctor is different. He has allowed himself to forget the worst of the Time War, and in so doing he has restored the possibility of someday finding his way home. He’s able to give that hope not only to Gallifrey but also to his earlier incarnations, even if the shifting timestreams mean his predecessors won’t remember his gift for long.
What’s at issue in “The Day Of The Doctor” isn’t the morality of the decision to destroy Gallifrey; after all, the latter-day Doctors come to accept the War Doctor and offer to help him push the big red button. Let’s not forget that it’s Clara—and, in her way, the Moment—who refuses to accept that there is no place left for the Doctor’s defining promise: “Never cowardly or cruel. Never give up, never give in.” It’s the earlier Doctors who repeat those words, but it’s the 11th who dares to see the path not of the warrior or of the hero, but of the Doctor. It’s crucial that the sole companion present is the one who points out that there could be another way, because Doctor Who needs that human voice just as much as it needs its alien in a police box.
The question that Steven Moffat’s script is really concerned with is whether there’s such a thing as a scenario without choice. He clearly believes that there isn’t, although the Doctor has to break all the laws of time 13 times over in order to prove the point; in terms of what the Doctor accomplishes, this is arguably the most unabashedly optimistic episode in Doctor Who history. But it’s very much up to the individual viewer to decide whether this fatally undercuts the Doctor’s emotional journey in the new series up to this point. On balance, I would say that it doesn’t, but never before has Steven Moffat so relied on the impossible logic of time travel to drive the Doctor’s character arc. The emotional burdens carried by the 9th and 10th Doctors are part of what enabled the 11th Doctor to develop this new perspective. As he says, with four centuries to consider the situation, he has changed his mind, and he’s in the unique position to change the original outcome. Maybe his new decision doesn’t entirely make sense—indeed, there’s plenty about “The Day Of The Doctor” that doesn’t entirely make sense—but that’s when 13 TARDISes and a whole bunch of rousing stock footage shows up, and it’s difficult not to get caught up in the triumph of that moment.”
Alasdair Wilkins, The A. V. Club (via lesserjoke)
can we talk about the fact that 10 and 11 were so young and childish compared to their past incarnations because they regretted what they did as the war doctor
and now that the doctor knows that he has nothing to regret, his 12th regeneration is older again
meaning he finally forgives himself and is happy again
WHOVIANS WHO DIDN’T LIKE THE 50TH:
To those of you complaining that the End of Time’s ending no longer makes sense, I would like to point out that it, in fact, does. The above picture is a screenshot of the Master’s page in regards to the end of time. You can read the full page here: [x]
First things first, the Master and the Doctor destroyed a link between Earth and the then thought to be time-locked Gallifrey. A LINK. Not all of Gallifrey, as I’ve seen a few posts claiming. This sent them, and potentially the Master as well, “back into hell” of the final day of the Time War.
As far as the council knew, it WAS the final day of the time war. The council, as you might have noticed, was not in this episode. Probably specifically for this reason. They were too busy securing a safe escape for themselves through the White-Point Star. AND I QUOTE FROM THE EPISODE, "The High Council is in emergency session - they have plans of their own." THIS LINE WAS VERY MUCH INTENTIONAL. In fact, the whole story line of the Master and the White-Point Star link could easily have gone down before the planet was stashed away by the doctors. In fact, that story line could run parallel to the Doctor trying to decide whether or not to destroy Gallifrey.
Now there are some saying, “BUT THE GUILT HE FELT WASN’T EVEN REAL.” No, it was real. As was stated in the episode, when they reentered their own time streams, the War Doctor and Ten individually forgot. And even if Eleven were to forget, Clara’s timeline was not changed, and therefore she would easily be able to remember and fill the Doctor in. It’s also why Eleven didn’t remember when he ran into Ten - because to his memory as Ten, it hadn’t happened to him. Getting back to the guilt, when the War Doctor (or 8.5 as some are calling him) woke up as nine, his planet would be gone. The last thing he would have remembered before crossing into the time streams would be trying to decide. His planet and all the Daleks are gone and only he remains, just as the Moment told him would be his fate if he chose to burn Gallifrey. And what can he find of his home? Nothing. So, naturally, he would assume that he chose to do it and that he killed his people, thus triggering the guilt in Russel T. Davies’ storyline.
TLDR: MOFFAT DID NOT IGNORE THE END OF TIME. PLEASE STOP.
Stubby the pit bull, who saw action during WW1